Is there a difference in tobacco from the old, "banned" Djarum Blacks and the new supposed "cigar" version?
Hello, I have been smoking blacks on and off for years now. Then they got banned. Now they have the new 12 pack versus the old 20, and it says filtered clove cigars instead of cigarettes. I bought my first pack today and they look, smoke and nearly taste just like the originals. They are bigger with colored papers, but they still have the filters (no more sugary tip).
Now, is there a difference, or did Djarum just re-label their product to make it sellable?
Djarum is an Indonesian clove cigarette founded in 1951 by Oei Wie Gwan, I think they taste great personally, but depending where you live our government wants to control what you can and can't do to your own body as well as regulate what we can and can't buy, The US is banning all flavored cigarettes except for menthol's which are made in the US, some are still available but they're slowly trying to get rid of them.
If people want freedom of choice everyone should get together and stop these silly laws from being passed.
Also to answer your question on the difference, Djarum Black is made from the cloves and tobacco with special oils and Djarum Gold is a blend of cloves and vanilla, and so forth, I don't believe there's a difference, it's more to get around the flavored cigarette ban taking place, though they could contain different leafs specific for cigars, of that I'm not totally certan though.
Here's an article below as well as a link so you know the source.
I cut the article in half to comply with the word limit on Yahoo answers.
But the link is below.
http://puffingcigars.com/cigar-news/djarum-sues-fda/3756/
Quote:
Originally Posted by website
May 19 (Bloomberg) -- A U.S. effort to discourage teenagers from smoking is running into opposition from Indonesia, whose 4 million clove farmers may lose a market.
Cloves would be banned as a cigarette flavoring, along with cherry and chocolate, under tobacco legislation a Senate panel is to consider today. Altria Group Inc., the largest U.S. tobacco company, backs the measure, which would exempt mint- flavored menthol cigarettes such as its Marlboro Smooth.
Congress would be “blatantly favoring a domestically produced product over an imported one” if it bans cloves and not menthol, Sudjadnan Parnohadiningrat, Indonesia’s ambassador to the U.S., wrote last month to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat. Indonesia vows to take the matter to the World Trade Organization if the proposed ban becomes law.
The dispute may force lawmakers to choose between jeopardizing a $22 billion-a-year trade relationship with Indonesia or rewriting legislation that took years to negotiate among lawmakers, anti-smoking advocates such as the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids, and Richmond, Virginia-based Altria.
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